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		<title>By: Joel Therien</title>
		<link>http://joeltherien.com/blog/?p=432&#038;cpage=4#comment-18751</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Therien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly

I dont even know who wrote it. It could have been someone in our Ukriane office. I know I am responsible to oversee everything so Ill take a look today. Thanks for the heads up</description>
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<p>I dont even know who wrote it. It could have been someone in our Ukriane office. I know I am responsible to oversee everything so Ill take a look today. Thanks for the heads up</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://joeltherien.com/blog/?p=432&#038;cpage=4#comment-18709</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 01:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,

I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve read the GVO manual, but it reads as if it was written by a 3rd grader.  Broken sentences, poor grammer, etc.  I realize it was probably outsourced, but if we are going to invite business clients to join, the manual is a poor &quot;first impression.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve read the GVO manual, but it reads as if it was written by a 3rd grader.  Broken sentences, poor grammer, etc.  I realize it was probably outsourced, but if we are going to invite business clients to join, the manual is a poor &#8220;first impression.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mel Topf</title>
		<link>http://joeltherien.com/blog/?p=432&#038;cpage=4#comment-17871</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel Topf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joel:

I just signed up and in still the trial run.  What I have seen so far is that you take a personal interest in the people that join you.  I especially like your news update and make it fun too.  Let me be honest with you.  You are not new but GVO is.  I once had signed up when you were still Kiosk.  I even spent the money for your boot camp at that time.  One of the problems that I found were that your instructional video&#039;s were not easy to follow, especially the whm.  I was new then too.  I was eager to learn but I found it difficult and I just could not grasp the instruction.  Anyway, it was too hard for me.  I don&#039;t know if others had the same problem.  I have seen other businesses out there that had excellent videos and tutorials which were so much easier to follow.  So, I am taking a crack at this one more time.  I just hope that you will publish easier videos and tutorials to help the newbie.  So far, What strikes me most is you and your staff being very personable which I can see by your news videos.  This I like because it presents a human side of what you offer.  I hope you can send me a letter giving me some pointers.  Thanks a lot and keep up the good work.

Best regards,

Mel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joel:</p>
<p>I just signed up and in still the trial run.  What I have seen so far is that you take a personal interest in the people that join you.  I especially like your news update and make it fun too.  Let me be honest with you.  You are not new but GVO is.  I once had signed up when you were still Kiosk.  I even spent the money for your boot camp at that time.  One of the problems that I found were that your instructional video&#8217;s were not easy to follow, especially the whm.  I was new then too.  I was eager to learn but I found it difficult and I just could not grasp the instruction.  Anyway, it was too hard for me.  I don&#8217;t know if others had the same problem.  I have seen other businesses out there that had excellent videos and tutorials which were so much easier to follow.  So, I am taking a crack at this one more time.  I just hope that you will publish easier videos and tutorials to help the newbie.  So far, What strikes me most is you and your staff being very personable which I can see by your news videos.  This I like because it presents a human side of what you offer.  I hope you can send me a letter giving me some pointers.  Thanks a lot and keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Mel</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Kemp</title>
		<link>http://joeltherien.com/blog/?p=432&#038;cpage=4#comment-17678</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.

After reading some of these comments, I feel less alone.

When I first signed onto GVO a few nights ago, it was with some skepticism. Why?  Because pretty much every GVO review site was a fake review site set up in order to gather affiliates.

That&#039;s the problem with MLM and affiliates--they destroy the integrity of review websites, since their aim is to earn affiliate commissions.  In this case, truth becomes the back seat driver to commerce.

In any case, after some thought, I signed up to GVO.

Immediately after signing up, I became even more skeptical.  Why?  Well, all the OTO (one time offers) that surfaced.  

After experiencing difficulties with GVO, in particular with:

1.  Log-in
2.  Domain name redirects
3.  Hosting manager conflicts

I am probably going to leave GVO and instead choose a dedicated and reliable (less buggy) hosting provider that allows for WP themes, and uses Fantastico.

The problem with any GVO is that it is an MLM, so in order to make money, you need to sell memberships in your downline.  This presents so many justifications ethically, because your desire to make money can sometimes overpower your desire to present the truth.

Years ago, I signed up to Manna Tech, an MLM company, to the tune of around $1,000 dollars.  At the time, I was hesitant, and for good reason.  Why?  You don&#039;t need Manna Tech to be healthy.  Instead, just eat lots of raw food, fresh water, be active (spiritually, mentally, physically, emotionally).  In order to make money, I was encouraged to recruit others to join Manna Tech, to sign up in my downline.  It didn&#039;t happen, because I did not believe in it. Therefore, I was being congruent.

The problem with GVO, and the ethical dilemma it presents is this:  Once you are paying the monthly fee, even if you are not using it, you are going to do your best to dress it up and get others to join, so you can make money from it.

Being part of an MLM is like being a pharmacist that has a lavish lifestyle, in that the pharmacist convinces himself that he is selling medications that actually help his customers, when instead, he is keeping them sick in order to maintain his comfortable lifestyle.

Joel seems like a nice guy, but at the end of the day, I&#039;m not even sure if he&#039;s convinced of the strength of his product, or whether the adornments that accompany such a product have convinced him of something it is not.

Kris Kemp
http://www.kriskemp.com
creative entrepreneur</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<p>After reading some of these comments, I feel less alone.</p>
<p>When I first signed onto GVO a few nights ago, it was with some skepticism. Why?  Because pretty much every GVO review site was a fake review site set up in order to gather affiliates.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem with MLM and affiliates&#8211;they destroy the integrity of review websites, since their aim is to earn affiliate commissions.  In this case, truth becomes the back seat driver to commerce.</p>
<p>In any case, after some thought, I signed up to GVO.</p>
<p>Immediately after signing up, I became even more skeptical.  Why?  Well, all the OTO (one time offers) that surfaced.  </p>
<p>After experiencing difficulties with GVO, in particular with:</p>
<p>1.  Log-in<br />
2.  Domain name redirects<br />
3.  Hosting manager conflicts</p>
<p>I am probably going to leave GVO and instead choose a dedicated and reliable (less buggy) hosting provider that allows for WP themes, and uses Fantastico.</p>
<p>The problem with any GVO is that it is an MLM, so in order to make money, you need to sell memberships in your downline.  This presents so many justifications ethically, because your desire to make money can sometimes overpower your desire to present the truth.</p>
<p>Years ago, I signed up to Manna Tech, an MLM company, to the tune of around $1,000 dollars.  At the time, I was hesitant, and for good reason.  Why?  You don&#8217;t need Manna Tech to be healthy.  Instead, just eat lots of raw food, fresh water, be active (spiritually, mentally, physically, emotionally).  In order to make money, I was encouraged to recruit others to join Manna Tech, to sign up in my downline.  It didn&#8217;t happen, because I did not believe in it. Therefore, I was being congruent.</p>
<p>The problem with GVO, and the ethical dilemma it presents is this:  Once you are paying the monthly fee, even if you are not using it, you are going to do your best to dress it up and get others to join, so you can make money from it.</p>
<p>Being part of an MLM is like being a pharmacist that has a lavish lifestyle, in that the pharmacist convinces himself that he is selling medications that actually help his customers, when instead, he is keeping them sick in order to maintain his comfortable lifestyle.</p>
<p>Joel seems like a nice guy, but at the end of the day, I&#8217;m not even sure if he&#8217;s convinced of the strength of his product, or whether the adornments that accompany such a product have convinced him of something it is not.</p>
<p>Kris Kemp<br />
<a href="http://www.kriskemp.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kriskemp.com</a><br />
creative entrepreneur</p>
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		<title>By: Kai Druhl</title>
		<link>http://joeltherien.com/blog/?p=432&#038;cpage=4#comment-15965</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai Druhl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This can become a great system, if you will add training in direct response marketing to the mix. Promoting the GVO services is fine. Also tell people what it takes to market their own products and services, and you will have a winner. That is what these tools are made for, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This can become a great system, if you will add training in direct response marketing to the mix. Promoting the GVO services is fine. Also tell people what it takes to market their own products and services, and you will have a winner. That is what these tools are made for, after all.</p>
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